But does but it categorically does not put that on anybody, but encourages everybody to listen to the Spirit. Feels very, very much for the Spirit to live a celibate life. And her own like really humble and kind of unique, not unique, but you know, rare voice within this space where she is. Her her informed-ness, like she's a sociologist and is trained and his training and brings all this wealth of knowledge and research to the table. Her strength and tenacity to those who are not struggling, but would judge others. I've been reading her blog for a few years, and I was so, I think I was so captivated by her gentleness to people that are struggling. Again, okay, I love I love Bridget, I love where she's coming from. But you know what, it was really interesting. And I find especially on Christmas and Easter, I long for a home and a hearth that does not exist in this world anymore. There's a lot of layers to that, as you can imagine, and anyone who's you know, listening with separated or divorced parents, you know, I'm still unpacking baggage, just from the fact that my parents are divorced.
Plus I’m an independently minded eldest born, who has already sort of got his sights on the horizon. Which I was still wrapping my head around. And so, moving out of… I didn’t even get to move out of my parents’ house, cause suddenly I had to… what I didn’t have to, but suddenly it was my mothers’, my single mother’s house that I was moving out of. And then I got married a year and a half later.
And then my parents separated, like immediately. And, I mean I was just becoming an adult. It’s been, it’s been a journey for so many different reasons, right? Like, my father came out when I was 18.
Yeah, it was … you know, it was good, it was really kind of a relief. So how did that, what brought along that journey for you, how did that feel for you to go there? Which I was like, you haven’t really done that publicly. And then, you open with talking about your Dad. Ummm, but two, I was listening and I like, Jonathan hasn’t gone here yet. And just, like she’s someone I can just listen to so easily. Which I think, boils down to: We notice that you have not discussed LGBTQ matters publicly on your podcast in 3 years, while everybody else has. Because I want to hear the behind the scenes story. People have been saying you better be doing a B-Side, for THAT interview. Everything is delayed.īut people have been asking, my friend. So we, there was a little delay here, but I recorded this interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera… that itself was delayed, I got COVID, there was a whole thing. Have a listen, see if the stirs hopeful things in you and drop us a line. So this is that b-side some of you asked for it, and I'm pleased and honored to offer it. But again, because I'm away we decided you know what we're gonna do we're gonna make the B-side for the prior prior interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera all about the heavy burdens that LGBTQ folks are forced to carry as they try to engage with church life. And so this would normally be scheduled to be an interview. Then episode 128 B came out that was the most recent episode on the feed where Tryphena and I unpacked that conversation and went into greater depth. So the first was our interview with Kevin Sweeney about mystechs, mushrooms, and the power of letting go. You may recall if you're a regular listener, that the B-sides are now available for every new episode going forward, they're going to be on the main feed. And if you're not too bad, so Tryphena and I agreed to do for this episode was to release the B-side for the Bridgette Eileen Rivera interview. Many thanks to you all for giving me permission if you are the first kind of person who gave me permission to take a break. So we are just taking a little break a year of foster care and my wife turning 40 provided the excuse for us to get away. And as you listen to this, if you're listening to it, you know, within a few weeks of it being released, I will be lying on a beach we will be lying on a beach or I suppose, holed up in a forest in Finland. Why a bonus episode because I'm on holiday. Hello friends and welcome back to The Puddcast.